You're going to have trouble finding one small enough. Maple Glazed City Ham, and here's one for a, Slow-roasted prime rib with a rich red wine, How to Buy, Use, and Care for a Meat Grinder, Put the Bang Bang in Your Leftover Thanksgiving Turkey. Got a question? No bagged ice in Italy, and my freezer doesn't make ice. So my brother gave me a molecular gastronomy set (with the standard bunch of chemicals and starting materials) but I haven't had the chance to use it yet. I usually do this with chicken and then make a quick sauce with the pan goodie and creme fraiche. 
I would like to test out braising turkey parts in the newest recipe by Cook's Illustrated magazine this month. Thanksgiving's not the right day to think about weather your sauce is too heavy! Why is gravy so amazing? If you've got a butcher worth his salt, he'd be happy to do it for you. A few years ago I made pan gravy using red wine (AB's Best Gravy Ever). The equally delicious lemon herb roasted turkey cooks up the magic in a single oven bag, however. I've never brined before so I'm freaking out a little bit. The pros, I can cook multiple things at two different temps, the small oven is great for most things I cook for dinner, the lower oven is big enough for a whole turkey and multiple pizzas. Everything's a trade-off. Cooking small turkeys is just like cooking larger ones, you just have to keep an eye on their temperature as they cook, because cooking times will be significantly lower. Remove bird 1 hour before cooking and pat dry . MerMei at 8:17PM on 11/10/11. For 6 ounces of turkey breast with no skin, it costs you 2 smart points on the green plan. Paper bags are a fire hazard, and roasting bags tend to produce pale turkey skin that sometimes sticks to the bag. Also, which is better? If the former, then it's new to me. As for Peking Duck forking for turkey, there are certainly elements of the recipe which would help. I'd just add a half teaspoon of each to the glaze when you construct it. Here's a recipe for a Maple Glazed City Ham, and here's one for a Cherry Coke-Glazed Country Ham. And remember kids, ALWAYS USE A THERMOMETER! Of course, vegetable gratins of any kind always feel celebratory. How long is the minimum brining time? I’ve tried lots of methods for roasting turkey – breast up, breast down, cooked whole, de-constructed, fresh turkeys, frozen turkeys, organic free range turkeys and they all have their pros and cons. Normally I'd say about half a pound per person, but this is Thanksgiving and leftovers are almost mandatory, so I'd go with at least 3/4 of a pound per person. If you aren't worried about having the perfectly round turkey on your Thanksgiving table, the best way to cook it is to butterfly it by cutting out the back, spreading it out, and pressing down on the center of the breast to flatten it. Just be more careful about final cooking temperature. —Bec at 4:15PM on 11/10/11. Believe me, after many years of working in restaurants, I can tell you that the Pope's nose (as it's called) is one of those "chef's bits" that cooks fight over to eat. My wife can never get enough butternut squash and ginger soup during the fall. However, I can't find a scaled down version to see if it's good. How to Cook A Turkey in An Oven Bag: Preheat oven: Move oven rack one level below center and preheat oven to 350 degrees. Fold and arrange the bag inside the roasting pan, so none of the corners or edges stick out too much and come into contact with the oven. Heritage breeds tend to pack more flavor than commercial turkeys, but they also tend to be a little tougher, scrawnier, and drier. What is the most efficient way to get the maximum amount of gravy into my mouth? On the other hand, eat a turkey that's been seasoned or brined with smoked salt and it'll taste smoky. Unfortunately, there's no way to do this in a beer cooler—it just doesn't stay hot for long enough! If you see something not so nice, please, report an inappropriate comment. With turkey, the skin turns out to be deliciously crispy. You could always stud it with cloves, or flavor the glaze with some festive ingredients like, say, cinnamon and allspice. The skin should stay plenty crisp during the whole cooking process, and you get ultra-moist fork tender meat and a very flavorful liquid to make your gravy with to boot! My tried-and-true recipe never fails to win me compliments. If your mom cuts them off, hoard them like gold. Of course, all the extras make it great! Check out this recipe. Off the top of my head, I'd do Roasted Brussels Sprouts, Crispy Roast Potatoes, and Harîcots verts with sauce Ravigote. Either way, explain your opinion. —adnan at 4:57PM on 11/10/11. Should any considerations be made in terms of cooking this versus a commercial bird? Should I use cream or creme fraiche or both? With a very thick roasting pan and an oven that doesn't circulate all that much, it's possible that if you turn the breast to face down that the sides of the roasting pan shield it from much direct heat, allowing it to cook more slowly and gently. Show 39 Comments Comments. », Last Thursday we gave you the opportunity to ask anything about Thanksgiving. One involves a wet solution — generally water but can be beer or wine — with about 35% salt, sometimes sugar and different spices and herbs. Cathy Jakicic has written about everything from business and bacteria to beads and baking in her career —but she greatly prefers the last two. Finally, jack up the heat, paint on the glaze, and throw it back in the oven until it's crisp, painting it with glaze a couple more times as it crisps up. I don't really do much vegan cooking, but certainly there are plenty of ideas in our Thanksgiving side dish guide. —Rosewood at 5:32PM on 11/10/11. The dark meat on turkey is high in iron. Are you just looking for some reassurance here or is this a serious question? We answered that came in before then! Pull your head out of the turkey. You could also spike the gravy with chili if you'd like. Even brining for a couple days shows penetration of no more than a few millimeters. —freets at 8:50PM on 11/10/11. And I think Butternut squash is clearly better. Yes, I'd butterfly the bird so that it lays flat. I've never seen a turkey release that much juice as it cooks. You should always measure your turkeys in the breast. What you want is a two-zone indirect fire, where all of the coals are piled on one side. Look up how long to roast your turkey based on it’s weight for our 18-20 pounds it’s about 3 hours 2. Remove the foil, and there you go: turkey and stuffing with almost no effort. Ooo, I thought of another one. You can always flip half way through roasting, but that's about as much fun as trying to wrangle a pit bull's favorite toy away from him while wearing sausage-stuffed pants. Both of the latter are concentrated yeast extracts, which add plenty of meaty glutamates to the mix. cmstiller at 10:32PM on 11/10/11. Turkey cutlets are a good, no-fuss way to go. What is the general consensus on this controversial part of the turkey or is my family just crazy? Tuck wings under turkey. If you’re storing a fresh turkey that doesn’t require defrosting, then you need to plan accordingly as an uncooked turkey can only last 1-2 days inside a refrigerator. Also, with braised turkey, is there any way I can rip the skin off before or after and crisp it up somehow? Comments can take a minute to appear—please be patient! With pasture-raised birds that are free from the "enhancing" solutions many commercial birds are injected with, overcooking is very easy. I'm not really sure, but if you are interested in knowing how a boneless Turk dances, check out this link. I just made my first batch of duck stock. I'm not sure why it's taking so long to get the quantity down to the right amount. Let it rest at least half an hour under foil, then carve and serve. This year i really want to smoke a turkey and was wondering if you had any tips? Can I use this duck stock interchangeably with chicken stock in Thanksgiving recipes? —hendrixe at 9:44PM on 11/10/11. "Because it's never been frozen, you can pick it up the day before and it's ready to go in your roasting pan or brine bag," he says. Learn exactly how to use one of these special oven bags here. Throw on some gravy and a good salad, and you've got a Thanksgiving meal not quite fit for a king, but certainly fit for a single person coming home after 7pm on Thanksgiving. Some people are devoted to cooking turkey in a big roaster with a lid. By trapping the moisture and heat, oven bags cook the bird faster and make it a breeze to collect all the juices to start making the gravy while the Turkey breast is high in protein and low in saturated fat so it is a favorite for nutritionists. If that doesn't turn him on to gravy, sorry coppertone24, it's time to start shopping for a new boyfriend. I've never made a kugel in my life, though Ed did mention that the mashed potato pie I made last week was uncannily similar to a really large, tasty knish. I haven't done extensive testing on this so I don't really know the thermal properties of a bag, but honestly, I don't see how it could possible benefit your bird. Other Benefits To Cooking Turkey In A Bag. (LA times says it works, but no science just opinion). When I brine my turkey, what spices can I use in the solution to pack the meat with spicy flavors, and can brine inject flavors other than saltiness? I spent a good chunk of the weekend answering them. Thicken with a brown roux. Plus, you can start a fire in your oven. Using a cooking bag for your turkey means that it won't dry out and all the flavors are kept in. Should you tip if it's an independent shop? Perfect kugel... unfortunately not up my alley. You won't get much benefit from subsequent brining on your own. —CandiRisk at 4:38PM on 11/10/11. Simply add a few minutes to the cooking time. Non-turkey gravy just seems like a lame white sauce, but I have non-meat-eating friends coming over and want their experience to be top notch. Turkeys are generally a minimum of around 8 pounds or so, whereas you're going to want a 4-5 pound bird. It'll take around 3 to 4 hours for a 10 to 12-pound bird. I've read so many stories about people who do that accidentally, and end up doing it that way on purpose from then on because the breast was so much more moist. Sides and Desserts »Leftovers, Family Traditions, etc. Finally, just like grilling, the oven will be free for other dishes. It's complete with two recipes, both of which should give you a nice crisp glaze. If you buy a generic bird from the supermarket it's probably pre-brined (some % salt solution). John Jensen at 6:22PM on 11/10/11. For what it's worth the plan is to buy a fresh Bell & Evans at my local co-op. Again, a bad thing. Indeed it's already pretty brined out. Now that’s something to be thankful for. Believe it or not, the skin will brown. Squash also makes great risotto. One “compromise”—and our friends at U of I will back us up here—is to toss the paper and try a turkey-size oven cooking bag, instead. She was appalled that I would only cook it for a couple of hours and not for 5 … —coppertone24 at 7:56PM on 11/10/11. You want to brine the bird for at least 8 hours, though 24 is preferable. Also, what is the best way to cook, what I am assuming will be, a smaller turkey? ), so I usually try and get myself a heritage breed if I can. It’s Faster. Do you have any suggestions for cooking turkey parts sous vide (or any other Thanksgiving stuff sous vide)? Josh Bousel has got you covered! I don't want it to be gloppy/too heavy. I tried the search function, but couldn't find it. Salt, unlike sugar, has the property that it dissolves equally fast in cold water as hot water, so no need to be hyper anal about dissolving it all. —Jim-Bob at 3:55PM on 11/10/11. My guess is that the people who think turkey's turn out better upside down are probably cooking based on time, not temperature, so they get a turkey breast that's less vastly overcooked than their normal overcooked turkey breast, leading them to think that it must be the upside-down-ness that's leading to moister meat. I want to make a great, savory soup that hits on some themes of Thanksgiving and autumn; any recommendations? According to experts, the brown-bag method ranks right up (down?) Butternut squash pie, or pumpkin pie? Heritage breeds tend to pack more flavor than commercial turkeys, but they also tend to be a little tougher, scrawnier, a… A Kosher turkey is essentially brined already, so there's really no reason to brine it. Actually, grilling a turkey is one of the best ways to cook it because it makes cooking the legs and breasts to the correct temperature so much easier. I like dark meat, but there is something about the back meat that skeeves me out. Here's last year's gravy recipe. If it looks too thick to you, some good broth would do too, but crème fraîche gets pretty loose as it heats, so make sure you have your sauce at serving temperature before you decide to modify its texture! I've already purchased coal rails, so i've got that covered. If the latter, then no, obviously stuffing is the best part of thanksgiving. I was wondering what could cause this and how to avoid it. Would cranberry glaze that's applied in the last half hour be noticeable or just be a gimmick? It's a great, easy, festive seasonal dish. It will yield juicy and tender meat and crispy skin, and will avoid entirely the brining or basting steps that most turkey recipes require. However, bags are not without their problems. Most other flavorful compounds are too large to be absorbed effectively. —jimmyg at 5:21PM on 11/10/11. Careful cooking can negate these problems (use a thermometer! Is it ok to just ask? It's enough to turn her already orangish skin even more orangish (I'm assuming she's not reading down this far). A supermarket? That makes the decision between the two come down to just a handful of factors. Of course, I wouldn't worry about it. Oh, absolutely. By the way, have you ever considered starting yourself on the Gravy Diet?" Here's a recipe from our columnist The Crisper Whisperer. Thick, rich, and creamy vanilla pastry cream. Extra broth? I make gravy using the pan drippings from the turkey. If your coals start to die out in the middle, feel free to add a few more during the cooking process. Unfortunately, this means that if the turkey takes slightly longer than I expect, I'm in the kitchen whisking gravy while guests are here waiting for their food.. —katyc at 7:08PM on 11/10/11. I rarely find the need to do anything to it other than give it a good sweet glaze and make sure the skin comes out nice and crisp. Oof, this is such a large can of worms that I don't even know where to begin. What about utilizing some of the awesome fall produce? Once the turkey’s prepared, shake some flour in a roasting bag, place the turkey inside, and tie the bag shut. Cooking aid The liners make life easier for people who find the lifting and cleaning of crockpots difficult because of arthritis or other mobility problems or physical impediments. I'd brine your bird then rub it with a spice rub that has plenty of heat in the form of cayenne pepper or fresh chilies. Brined birds—such as a fresh herb brined turkey or a marinated Thanksgiving turkey are often double bagged to contain the tasty liquid. Preheat your oven to 425 3. It tasted great, but it was purple. I love your writing on sous vide cooking! What would be the best way to add a sugar/honey glaze to a ham to achieve the crisp of preglazed hams? Concerning boneless turkeys: How did they walk? Bad for the oven and bad for the turkey. Post whatever you want, just keep it seriously about eats, seriously. Unfortunately, the only real flavor that penetrates deeply into the turkey during brining is salt. Still, believers say cooking turkey in a bag guarantees a heavenly bird—juicy on the inside, crispy on the outside, with crispy golden skin. * My apologies to anyone who submitted a question after the midnight EST deadline last week. I know there's a lot more salt because of the Kashering process, but is there anyway to brine a Kosher turkey? Both the University of Illinois and the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) agree—using a grocery bag is dangerous. You should have no problem keeping it cold for around 8 hours or so (longer if you replace the frozen bottles periodically). Wet vs. Dry Brine Turkey – the Pros and Cons There are two methods to brine turkey. Preferably made in the beer cooler method. If they need a bit more cooking, remove them and leave them in the oven for longer while your breasts rest. It’s Cleaner. As for sides, we've got a whole page devoted to them with both traditional and non-traditional choices. This will concentrate its color and its flavor and help you avoid the purple sauce. Will removing the back from the turkey will cause the turkey to cook quicker? That should go very nicely with duck. The biggest advantage of a fresh turkey — which means it's been quick-chilled to a temperature between 26°-40°F, according to the USDA — is convenience, says John Peterson, third-generation farmer at Ferndale Market in Cannon Falls, Minnesota. It's because it's such a strong flavor that even a little bit on the surface has enough aromatic molecules to make you sense it the whole time its in your mouth. I'm making roast duck, instead of turkey, and tarte tatin instead of apple pie. Salt, pepper, perhaps some thyme sprigs. White meat is lower in kilojoules and has less fat than the dark meat. The USDA says when cooking a frozen turkey, you should expect to extend the cooking time by at least 50 percent. See above. J. Kenji López-Alt is a stay-at-home dad who moonlights as the Chief Culinary Consultant of Serious Eats and the Chef/Partner of Wursthall, a German-inspired California beer hall near his home in San Mateo. Cons: According to one study, low levels of plastics can migrate from roasting bags to turkey meat, skin and juices, although according to the study’s authors these levels non-hazardous. Once fully thawed, frozen turkeys will still take longer to cook than fresh ones. Baking time varies depending on the size of your turkey. Orange tilapia retains its moisture because it is cooked in a parchment paper pouch. —scalfin at 6:04PM on 11/10/11. Use an oven roasting bag. Stay tuned tomorrow for all questions related to sides and desserts, and Wednesday for the hodgepodge of miscellany that didn't fit elsewhere. Some of this comes out as it cooks. As long as you don't overcook it, there's no reason a right-side-up breast should be any less juicy than an upside-down one. You can refer to the Oven Bag directions or use the reference below. The Food Lab: Better Home Cooking Through Science (based on his Serious Eats column of the same name) is a New York Times best-seller, recipient of a James Beard Award, and was named Cookbook of the Year in 2015 by the International Association of Culinary Professionals. I'd suggest making this one, then wearing it. It’s method that comes in and out of style and there are debates about the pros and cons of brining. Pull turkey out about 35 min. Bear in mind that butchers are very busy during the holiday season, so make sure you give him plenty of time to do it (while you shop should be fine—just make the butcher counter your first and last stop in the supermarket). That said, a spicy surface treatment would definitely add some heat to the mix. It's a brand new made-up diet for a new generation of gullible people. But there are three words of caution anyone tempted to try cooking turkey in a bag needs to hear: Don’t do it. Some comments may be held for manual review. I don't have the newest issue of Cook's so I couldn't tell you exactly how they do it or if it can be scaled down, but here's a recipe for braised chicken legs which highlights a technique that would work just as well with turkey legs. In addition to being delicious and easy to cook, turkey offers some good health benefits. 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